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3 – ( – 2[3 – 16 ÷ 2]) =
(A)–15
(B)...
(C)...
(D)...
(E)...
(F)...
*This question is included in Nova Press: Problem Solving Diagnostic Test, question #4

The solution is

Posted: 11/30/2011 19:09
how do you do this?
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Posted: 12/01/2011 15:35
Jackie,

Here's an explanation for you.

Let us know if it's helpful.

Thanks.
Posted: 02/15/2012 13:56
Question four is wrong, the correct answer is 5 instead of -15
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Posted: 02/15/2012 14:33
Hi Matt, thanks for posting. Did you check out the posted solution above your post? I am pretty sure the answer is not 5.

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Posted: 02/17/2012 13:31
The equation is 3-((2^3)-2[3-162]

The mistake I believe comes from the
-2[3-162] part of the equation so I will just solve this.
-2[3-8]= -2[-5] now here is the difference of opinion [-5] becomes 5 and then is multiplied by -2 getting
-10... According to the solution You guys are getting 10
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Posted: 02/17/2012 14:09
Yes, this is where the mistake came from. (-5) cannot become 5 all of a sudden, right?
Posted: 02/17/2012 13:34
What I am using to base my opinion off of is that [-5] /= doesn't equal -5
So let's just go with [-5]= -5 when you play this out it becomes 5 = -5 that doesn't work. [-5] = 5
Posted: 02/17/2012 13:36
Also the 162 is 16 divided by 2 but the iPhone division symbol must be getting edited out.
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Posted: 02/17/2012 15:37
Hi Matt. I just tested from my iPhone. The forward slash / works as an alternative division symbol. The backslash will be edited out. Please use the forward slash when commenting or asking. Thanks.
Posted: 02/17/2012 13:39
I could be wrong, but I really don't think I am. Happy hunting on the math proof showing that [-5] =-5
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Posted: 02/17/2012 14:06
Matt, thank you for sharing your steps. (-5) is most definitely = -5. Parentheses are present to give priority to the order of operation. When there is only one element in the operation, you can remove the parentheses. Hence -2·(-5) = -2 · -5 = +10
Posted: 02/17/2012 14:40
[ ] are absolute value symbols note -5 is inside absolute value symbols and not parentheses.
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Posted: 02/17/2012 15:04
Ahhh, ok Matt. I see where the source of the confusion is. Absolute value symbols are | .. | instead of the square parentheses or brackets [ ... ]. Do you notice the little bends at the top and bottom? Square brackets are sometimes used when there are brackets in brackets. I am sorry for the confusion.

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